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Farage welcomes revived police probe into alleged arson attack at his home after Widdecombe murder

Q: [From Jack Elsom from the Sun] Can you tell us anything more about the Ann Widdecombe investigation to cover an arson attack at your home?

That was a reference to this story.

Farage replied:

double quotation markShortly before the horrific murder of Ann Widdecombe, I did publicly say something I hadn’t said for a year, which was about an incident that occurred at my home address. The issue was basically arson, and the attempted forcing of the door.

I hadn’t mentioned it for a year, because I generally don’t mention in public the security concerns that I have, because there have been too many of them that have happened.

I spoke about this in the context of me needing to be provided with security clearly to the end of my days.

Ann, 78, been out of office for many, many years. And I discussed that around the issue of money, of my own future protection.

Of course, most of the media organisations in this room called me a liar.

This is a very partial account of what happened earlier this year. Farage did say, in an interview with the Daily Telegraph, that there had been an arson attack on his home which he had not revealed before. You would find it very hard to find any mainstream media organisation that called him a liar. But journalists (including from the Guardian) pointed out that he had had given this interview as a “spoiler” because it came when he knew the Guardian was about to publish the story about how he had received an undisclosed £5m donation from the cryptobillionaire Christopher Harborne, and Farage told the Telegraph about the donation and said that it was wholly unrelated to his political work and that it was just a gift to fund his security for the rest of his life (which is why he mentioned the arson attack). Some people are very sceptical about this explanation – particularly in the light of stories like this. Doubts were also raised about the arson story after the Observer reported that, while the police recorded an attempted burglary at Farage’s home, they did not record an arson attack.

In his answer at the press conference, Farage went on:

double quotation markThe truth is, there was an investigation into this.

And clearly counter-terrorism [police] made some mistakes, which is why they referred themselves to the Independent Office of Police Complaints.

I understand this is a completely unprecedented move.

And, yes, this is directly linked to the murder of Ann Widdecombe.

And I’m afraid I just can’t tell you any more than that at this stage.

It’s a great, great tragedy that it took the death of Ann for the security services in Britain to finally take seriously the safety and security of Reform politicians and reform prominent figures.

Up until that moment, we had been treated very differently to everybody else. For example, four days after the murder of Charlie Kirk, I had nearly all of my security removed from me. We have been ignored. Our situation has been undervalued.

But I’m not going to say anything now to prejudice [the investigation], because I do actually believe in my heart that counter-terrorism are now seriously doing this job, and I have confidence in them.

I’d love to tell you more. It will come out, but I just dare not breach that trust and confidence with counter-terrorism at this stage.

The police have yet to confirm any such link between Widdecombe’s murder and the alleged firebombing of Farage’s home. Police did not identify any suspects during their investigation of the incident at the time, which was treated as an attempted burglary, and so the investigation was closed, pending any new lines of inquiry.

Since the case was reopened, CTP London said it had identified a line of inquiry “which may have been relevant” but was “not identified and pursued by [counter-terrorism police] at the time”.

The police watchdog said it was now investigating the conduct of a CTP London staff member over allegations that they “failed to identify and pursue a line of inquiry”.

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Amnesty International says Farage putting 'hate and inhumanity' before leadership with El Salvador prison plan

Amnesty International UK has condemned Reform UK’s proposal to send foreign prisoners to serve the rest of their sentences in El Salvador. In a statement on the policy announced at a press conference this morning (see 9.35am), Steve Valdez-Symonds, Amnesty International UK’s refugee and migrant rights director, said:

double quotation markReform is proposing to contract into serious human rights abuses in El Salvador to enable the transfer of people convicted in the UK into an extremely overcrowded and abusive prison system overseas – financing brutality with British taxpayers’ money.

Amnesty has documented mass arbitrary detention, beatings, torture and other ill-treatment, enforced disappearances, denial of medical care and deaths in custody in El Salvador. People have been cut off from their families and effectively disappeared into detention, while relatives have been left searching prisons, courts and even morgues for answers.

This proposal is a further extension of a wider politics that has moved dangerously far from any sense of what is practical, legal or constitutes basic human decency. We have already seen with the Rwanda scheme how policies once considered unthinkable can be pushed dangerously far when politicians choose headlines and hostility over real solutions to human needs.

Too many politicians seem incapable of any real leadership – whether at home or internationally – preferring to agitate hate, violence and inhumanity that makes all of us less safe. This latest proposal from Reform provides a stark example of that.

Nigel Farage and Zia Yusuf speaking at their press conference this morning at the Royal Horseguards Hotel.
Nigel Farage and Zia Yusuf speaking at their press conference this morning at the Royal Horseguards Hotel. Photograph: James Manning/PA

No 10 says arrival of 230 people on 'mega-dinghy' highlights 'ruthless' tactics used by people-smuggling gangs

Downing Street says the arrival of a record 230 people in the UK on a single ‘mega-dinghy’ crossing the Channel has highlighted the “ruthless” tactics being used by people smugglers.

Asked about the incident at the No 10 lobby briefing, the PM’s spokesperson said:

double quotation markWe’ve seen today some appalling images of young babies being put into these unseaworthy craft, and they’re shocking images, and they show the reality behind the ruthless smuggling gangs that are prepared to risk human lives for profit.

That’s exactly why the government has signed a new payment-by-results deal with the French to prevent these perilous journeys from happening in the first place.

The government was “not complacent”, the spokesperson said. But he said joint action taken with the French since the general election had prevented 47,000 crossings.

A SNSM picture of the boat carrying 230 people from SNSM from the BBC
A SNSM picture of the boat carrying 230 people from SNSM from the BBC Photograph: SNSM

Record 230 people cross Channel to UK as smugglers turn to ‘mega-dinghies’

A dinghy carrying a record 230 people has arrived in the UK after crossing the Channel in the early hours of Monday, Diane Taylor reports.

Rape crisis centres condemn Green MSP's rape 'spectrum' comment

The Scottish Rape Crisis Alliance (SRCA) has condemned a Green MSP over their comments about the “demonisation of rape”, the Press Association reports. PA says:

double quotation markQ Manivannan was also rebuked for saying rape exists on a “spectrum”.

In an open letter, the alliance, which represents four rape crisis centres in Scotland, said there was “no hierarchy of rape” and warned the MSP not to “minimise” sexual violence.

Manivannan has faced backlash from Scotland’s children’s minister, as well as Labour, the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats.

The comments from Manivannan, made during The Subjective Space podcast last year, sparked fury after they re-emerged online at the weekend.

During the nearly hour-long exchange, Manivannan, a non-binary MSP who uses they/them pronouns, said there was a “demonisation of rape”.

“It is a spectrum,” they added, “none of which is any worse or less or more worse, but it is a spectrum of things that constitute that one homogenised word, rape.”

Manivannan also said there were “different modes” of consent and rape.

The MSP went on to say that the idea of a rapist being a “big, big, burly man” was “not necessarily unfounded” but said it was “misconstrued” because “any individual is capable” of rape.

The SRCA said it “fundamentally rejects the suggestion that society is demonising rape”.

The alliance said: “We do not need to exaggerate its seriousness. We do not need to turn perpetrators into mythical monsters.

“But neither should we be afraid to say plainly that rape is horrific, that it causes profound trauma and harm, and that responsibility for that harm belongs with the person who chose to violate another person.”

Farage says Restore Britain supporters would be 'horrified' by antisemitism of some of those in Rupert Lowe's 'inner circle'

At his press conference Nigel Farage claimed that voters who support Rupert Lowe’s Restore Britain party, which is even more rightwing and anti-immigrant than Reform UK, would be “horrified” by some of the people around Lowe.

Farage said some Lowe’s close allies were antisemitic. People like that would have to be “out of the inner circle” before Reform UK would hold talks with Restore Britain about cooperating, he said.

He said:

double quotation markI suspect many of those who say Restore in answer to a poll are perhaps not quite aware [of what people in the party are like]. They see Rupert, they see this farmer from Gloucestershire, and they think he makes sense. But those he’s got around him – I think they’d be pretty horrified too [by their views].

Last week Lowe said the two parties should work together. As Ben Quinn explained in an analysis at the time, the prospects of Farage and Lowe cooperating are slight. But without some sort of deal, the hard right vote is split.

Farage played down the prospect of councils or residents objecting to Reform UK’s plans for Nightingale prisons at his press conference this morning. When this idea was put to him, he said that Reform UK would place the jails on MoD land where military bases have closed and where local people would welcome the jobs being created.

Reform UK has said more about this in the policy document on this that it has released this morning. It says:

double quotation markThe Ministry of Defence manages 341,400 hectares of land within the UK. 1.4% of the UK land mass. The Defence Estate Optimisation portfolio currently lists around 30 former barracks and military sites that are no longer required for military use.

Many of these brownfield sites are suitable for rapid construction of modular prisons, and we will change planning laws as necessary. Prefab cells are made in a factory, driven to site and craned into place, so most of the work is finished before anything arrives, and one design serves every site. Britain has already proved it at every scale: Millsike’s precast houseblocks each went up in twelve weeks; and the first Rapid Deployment Cells at Norwich held prisoners seven months after contracts were signed.

Florida has shown the viability of this arrangement. ‘Alligator Alcatraz’ went up in eight days: off-the-shelf tents and modular units on an airstrip the state already owned, bought under emergency no-bid contracts, with capacity for 3,000 detainees and room to grow to 5,000.42 We would put the programme on an emergency footing, build on MoD land, buy standard kit, and thousands of places could exist within months at a fraction of the current cost.

Yusuf said, under Reform UK, councils and quangos would lose the right to object to new national critical infrastructure projects, and that prisons would be included in this category.

At his press conference, it was put to Farage that other foreign countries would refuse to take back the foreign offenders he wants to deport and that legal challenges would hold up the plan, just as they did with the Tories’ Rwanda policy.

Farage dismissed these concerns, saying:

double quotation markI believe that, with the right attitude, you can say to countries, ‘Look, if you do this for us, we’ll do that for you.’ There are ways and negotiations. Perhaps what it needs is some people negotiating on behalf of this country who’ve been in business before and know what doing deals really is.

And Yusuf said:

double quotation mark[This is a] really good example of the learned helplessness as someone who’s new to politics that I find fascinating. One of the really cool things that a government can do is change the laws. And I know that sounds crazy but, as Nigel said, the reason why the Rwanda plan stood no chance of success was because they weren’t even willing to leave the [European convention on human rights]. And that’s just the first of many steps that you would need to take in order to do the things that we are talking about …

We are in an extraordinary situation. And the only way you resolve an extraordinary problem is through extraordinary solutions.

Farage claims election in 2027 'more than likely' because of risk of debt crisis

At his press conference, asked about an early election, Nigel Farage said he thought an election this year was “very unlikely”.

But he did think an election in 2027 was probable, he said. He said that national debt was rising faster than in any other country apart from Botswana (a figure based on a 25-year timetable) and he claimed there was a risk of a debt crisis. He went on:

He went:

double quotation markI’m not willing this. I don’t want us to have a debt market crisis. But I believe the likelihood of it increases with every single day that goes by. So I still believe an election next year is more than likely.

No 10 plays down prospect of further changes to prisoner early release scheme to exempt killers of PC Harper

Downing Street has said it is “not possible” to exempt “one or two offenders” convicted of manslaughter from early release amid pressure over the eligibility of PC Andrew Harper’s killers to be freed from prison from January, the Press Association reports. (See 9.35am.) PA says:

double quotation markNo 10 insisted Andy Burnham is “far from accepting the situation” but appeared to play down the prospect of an imminent carve-out to keep Jessie Cole and Albert Bowers behind bars.

Some 5,000 people are expected to be released early under sentencing changes, down from 6,000 after the exemptions announced as part of an urgent review of the scheme.

Under current plans, Cole and Bowers remain eligible to be freed halfway through their 13-year sentences after they were convicted of manslaughter in 2020 following PC Harper’s death in 2019.

More than 880,000 people have signed a petition calling for them to remain in jail, with a government source telling The Daily Telegraph on Friday the prime minister is prepared to “explore every option” to block their early release.

Asked whether this was correct at the lobby briefing this morning, the PM’s spokesperson said manslaughter of an emergency worker was “not a standalone offence” and it was “not possible to simply exclude one or two offenders” within the wider category of manslaughter.

Asked whether ministers were accepting the situation as it stands, the spokesperson said: “I think you’ve seen from the prime minister’s words that he’s far from accepting the situation and as he wrote last week he wants to go even further.

“He’s pushed hard on what more we could do and his focus now is on fixing the prison system long term to avoid a repeat of this prison crisis so that it never happens again.”

Pressed on whether the prime minister was admitting there was nothing more he could do, the official said: “He understands the public wants him to go further, and he wanted to go further, but on the wider issue that prisons would have run out of space, police would stop making arrests, it would be impossible to lock up convicted offenders and that would put public safety at untold risk.”

Farage claims police 'very scared' of what inquiry into how they originally investigated alleged arson attack may show

Q: [From LBC’s Natasha Clark] You say prisoners should serve full sentences. Does that mean you don’t believe in rehabilitation?

Yusuf said:

double quotation markWhat we’re saying very clearly is that those who kill people, those who rape, violent thugs, will not be allowed out of jail a day early under a Reform government.

And Farage said he did believe in rehabilitation. But 1% of criminals were responsible for a large amount of crime, and protecting the public took precedence over rehabilitating them.

Q: Do you have confidence in the police?

Farage replied:

double quotation markThis is a very difficult question to answer because I want to be on the side of the police. Of course I do. Instinctively, I want to be on the side of the police. I think I’ve made it clear already.

But, up until this moment in time, I think this political party and its senior figures have been treated with contempt by many organisations of the state, not just the police force or the counter-terrorism unit within it.

Farage also said that the fact that counter-terrorism police have referred themselves to the Independent Office for Police Conduct over the original investigation into the alleged arson attack at his home showed they were “obviously very, very scared of what the truth is when it comes out”.

But it also showed they were not trying to cover it up, he said.

Nigel Farage (right) and Zia Yusuf at their press conference at the Royal Horseguards Hotel in Westminster.
Nigel Farage (right) and Zia Yusuf at their press conference at the Royal Horseguards Hotel in Westminster. Photograph: Dan Kitwood/Getty Images

Farage says, although small boat arrival numbers coming down, they are still 'horrendous'

Q: [From Rob Powell from Sky News] You mentioned the record number of arrivals on a single boat. (See 10.33am.) But isn’t it the case that people are having to use bigger boats because the smaller boats keep getting seized? The numbers are coming down.

Farage said he always said the people smugglers were going to start using bigger boats.

And he said, while overall numbers were down, they were still “horrendous”.

UPDATE: Farage said:

double quotation markI’ve always thought the boats would get bigger – I’ve always thought they would.

And we were pretty shocked the other day. Do you remember 173? That was about two weeks ago if I remember rightly.

We were shocked at 173. Well, we’re already up by another 25%.

And yes, the overall numbers this year are down but they’re still horrendous …

Yes, we have managed to stop some of the dinghies but it doesn’t stop the problem – it doesn’t go away.

It is still something that is completely out of control.

Q: [From ITV’s Carl Dinnen] What will the Nightingale prisons be like?

Yusuf said they would be erected with prefabricated, modular technology.

They would house a lower category of prisoner, he said. But they would be secure, he said.

He also said Florida was an example of a place where places for 3,000 prisoners were built in a matter of days.

Yusuf also claimed it cost £600,000 to build a single prison place in the UK. That was partly because of planning regulations, he said. And it was partly because people building prisons needed a high level of security clearance, he said. Yusuf said Reform UK would get round this by getting the army involved.

Farage welcomes revived police probe into alleged arson attack at his home after Widdecombe murder

Q: [From Jack Elsom from the Sun] Can you tell us anything more about the Ann Widdecombe investigation to cover an arson attack at your home?

That was a reference to this story.

Farage replied:

double quotation markShortly before the horrific murder of Ann Widdecombe, I did publicly say something I hadn’t said for a year, which was about an incident that occurred at my home address. The issue was basically arson, and the attempted forcing of the door.

I hadn’t mentioned it for a year, because I generally don’t mention in public the security concerns that I have, because there have been too many of them that have happened.

I spoke about this in the context of me needing to be provided with security clearly to the end of my days.

Ann, 78, been out of office for many, many years. And I discussed that around the issue of money, of my own future protection.

Of course, most of the media organisations in this room called me a liar.

This is a very partial account of what happened earlier this year. Farage did say, in an interview with the Daily Telegraph, that there had been an arson attack on his home which he had not revealed before. You would find it very hard to find any mainstream media organisation that called him a liar. But journalists (including from the Guardian) pointed out that he had had given this interview as a “spoiler” because it came when he knew the Guardian was about to publish the story about how he had received an undisclosed £5m donation from the cryptobillionaire Christopher Harborne, and Farage told the Telegraph about the donation and said that it was wholly unrelated to his political work and that it was just a gift to fund his security for the rest of his life (which is why he mentioned the arson attack). Some people are very sceptical about this explanation – particularly in the light of stories like this. Doubts were also raised about the arson story after the Observer reported that, while the police recorded an attempted burglary at Farage’s home, they did not record an arson attack.

In his answer at the press conference, Farage went on:

double quotation markThe truth is, there was an investigation into this.

And clearly counter-terrorism [police] made some mistakes, which is why they referred themselves to the Independent Office of Police Complaints.

I understand this is a completely unprecedented move.

And, yes, this is directly linked to the murder of Ann Widdecombe.

And I’m afraid I just can’t tell you any more than that at this stage.

It’s a great, great tragedy that it took the death of Ann for the security services in Britain to finally take seriously the safety and security of Reform politicians and reform prominent figures.

Up until that moment, we had been treated very differently to everybody else. For example, four days after the murder of Charlie Kirk, I had nearly all of my security removed from me. We have been ignored. Our situation has been undervalued.

But I’m not going to say anything now to prejudice [the investigation], because I do actually believe in my heart that counter-terrorism are now seriously doing this job, and I have confidence in them.

I’d love to tell you more. It will come out, but I just dare not breach that trust and confidence with counter-terrorism at this stage.

The police have yet to confirm any such link between Widdecombe’s murder and the alleged firebombing of Farage’s home. Police did not identify any suspects during their investigation of the incident at the time, which was treated as an attempted burglary, and so the investigation was closed, pending any new lines of inquiry.

Since the case was reopened, CTP London said it had identified a line of inquiry “which may have been relevant” but was “not identified and pursued by [counter-terrorism police] at the time”.

The police watchdog said it was now investigating the conduct of a CTP London staff member over allegations that they “failed to identify and pursue a line of inquiry”.

Q: What would happen to foreign prisoners sent to El Salvador after their release? Would they stay there, or would they be allowed back?

Yusuf said they would not be allowed to return to the UK.

Whether they would be allowed to stay in El Salvador or not would be a matter for the negotiations, he said.

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